{"id":14535,"date":"2017-10-05T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-10-05T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.escapeartist.com\/?p=14535"},"modified":"2020-06-12T09:37:01","modified_gmt":"2020-06-12T13:37:01","slug":"offshore-company-scam-bank-account-stupid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.escapeartist.com\/blog\/offshore-company-scam-bank-account-stupid\/","title":{"rendered":"Offshore Company Scam: It\u2019s the Bank Account Stupid!"},"content":{"rendered":"

I get calls everyday from people who bought a cheap company from some hack in Belize or elsewhere. To a man, every story about the offshore company scam is the same: \u201chey, I bought an offshore IRA LLC or an offshore company from Belize. Now I can\u2019t get a bank account\u2026 what should I do?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

The offshore company scam works like this. They usually charge you an \u201cup front consultation fee.\u201d They listen to you on the phone for a few minutes, ask questions to appear interested, and then propose what they always do – an offshore company from Belize.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Their service includes forming the company and \u201cintroducing you to a bank\u201d that sometimes opens accounts for their clients. There is no ongoing support, no customized operating agreement (mandatory with IRA LLCs), and no other services included in the formation fee. <\/span><\/p>\n

At the end of the day, you get what you paid for, an offshore company and the email address of someone who works at a bank. <\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s a scam of sorts because many buyers can\u2019t do anything with their structure. They call and email the bank and can\u2019t get a bank account opened for whatever reason. Without an international bank account, and offshore company is useless. <\/span><\/p>\n

Of course, some clients find a way to open a bank account with their structure, but many do not. A portion of the people who pay for a consultation, and buy a company on the cheap, get something they can do nothing with. <\/span><\/p>\n

And we\u2019re also seeing this same offshore company scam in the Panama residency programs. Customers buy a house or a teak investment from an inexperienced provider. They get some help with the residency process and are left on their own to get a bank account in Panama. <\/span><\/p>\n

Once the top tax havens, <\/span>Panama is getting out of the offshore banking business<\/span><\/a>. It\u2019s become very difficult to open a bank account in Panama, even after you \u00a0have residency. Without residency, it\u2019s impossible. <\/span><\/p>\n

Again, the provider sold them a package and promised to introduce them to a bank. Because the bank account is the most difficult part, and the key to using the structure, this is a scam of sorts\u2026 the provider knows that a portion of his clients won\u2019t be able to use what they\u2019re buying, but he takes their money anyway. <\/span><\/p>\n

Let me put it to you another way. A few years ago, we at Premier would sell an offshore structure and 12 months of tax and business consulting service for a flat fee. We would then open the account for you for free. <\/span><\/p>\n

Today, <\/span>we basically give you the company for free and charge you to open the account<\/b>.<\/span><\/p>\n

The amount of work that goes into opening the bank account far outweighs the work that goes into forming the company. <\/span><\/p>\n

And, again, all providers know this. Some of us have decided to offer a complete package for a flat rate and some have decided to run game knowing that many suckers won\u2019t be able to use what they\u2019re buying. <\/span><\/p>\n

The moral of the story is that you should never buy an offshore company or residency package from someone who promises to \u201cintroduce you to a bank.\u201d An introduction gets you 5% of the way to an account. What you need is someone who will manage the process, represent you before the banker, and gets the account opened for you. <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s going to cost a lot more to hire a quality firm to set up the company <\/span>and <\/b>open the account. But, without the account and some ongoing support, what \u00a0do you have? Some corporate papers that will sit in the drawer and nothing more. <\/span><\/p>\n

This is especially true with some of the Panama residency programs. Some providers are all about volume and won\u2019t have time for your banking woes. Some are simply real estate agents that handle one or two cases a year. They have no idea how to open a bank account.<\/span><\/p>\n

I can tell you from experience that the best Panama residency program is the <\/span>Friendly Nations Reforestation<\/span><\/a> Visa visa. Basically, you invest $20,000 in one of Panama\u2019s reforestation programs. In most cases, you\u2019re buying teak with a 5 to 10 year harvest cycle. <\/span><\/p>\n

In exchange, you get residency for you and your family. This includes your spouse and dependent children 18 and under. Additional legal and government fees apply to each applicant. <\/span><\/p>\n

Another reason I like this progam is that you can make the investment with your IRA. Buy the teak in your IRA, and pay legal and residency fees out of your personal account, and you\u2019re golden. For more, see: <\/span>How to get Residency in Panama Using Your IRA<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

And, of course, the providers we recommend include the bank account in the cost!<\/span><\/p>\n

I hope you\u2019ve found this article on the offshore company scam, and why you should focus on the bank account and not the structure, to be helpful. We\u2019ll be happy to assist you to form a company, or take your \u00a0IRA offshore, and we will open a bank account for you. We will work with you throughout the entire process until you have a fully functional structure. <\/span><\/p>\n

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