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(Page two of an online interview with Pamela Campbell and Igor Smirnoff, overseas teachers. Questions submitted by US and Canadian students via email.)

Q:
How much can you make working overseas?  - Asked by Janie Ahtila 

A:
Pam 
This depends entirely on your job, in which currency you are being paid and in which country you are working. In Spain, I wasn't able to save much money but I lived very well on my salary and traveled Spain extensively. Cafes and restaurants are abundant in Spain and most people spend very little time at home.

Most of my friends would go home to nap or to sleep and that was about it. If housing is included in your contract you will be much better off financially.
Igor 
Salaries and benefits vary greatly from school to school, from $15,000 to $80,000 for teaching positions, and $25,000 to $120,000 for administrative jobs. The real  question is not how much you are going to make, but how much you'll be able to save. If you have free housing, no utility bills, no taxes, no car payments -- and if the cost of living is low -- even a modest salary overseas is still better than huge paychecks at home that have to cover these expenses. 

Q:
Do you teach all ages or can you choose the age of your students?  - Asked by David Hill 

A:
Pam 
It depends on what sort of job you have. I was hired to teach first grade in Spain and then second grade in Bulgaria.

If you teach at a language academy you will have to teach five or six classes per day, and you probably will not get to choose what age level you will teach. You may be able to ask for one group that is your preferred age. And sometimes you can make a little extra money by teaching an after-school activity or sport, or by tutoring privately in town. Right now I teach English to students in grades two to five, which is nice because I interact with lots of kids. For more info, please visit our Web site at http://joyjobs.com/index.html

Q:
Do you have to speak the language of the country you're teaching in? - Asked by Jonas Ethan

A:
Pam

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No. When I taught in Spain it was actually an asset that I didn't speak Spanish because it forced me to speak English with my students. However, you will pick up the  language while you live there. By the time I left Spain, I was conferencing with the parents in Spanish. 

Igor 
In Bulgaria, the school community was truly international and the common language was English. We took lessons for two years while we lived there, but we never mastered the Bulgarian language. It makes everyday life a lot easier if you know the  host country's language, but you don't need it at all to get a job overseas. 

Q:
What's your favorite country? - Asked by Christian Todal 

A:
Igor
This is such a difficult question. Each country has its pros and cons.

The answer will also depend on where you are in your life, how you are feeling and what you are looking for as you live and travel. I suppose it will also depend on how much money you have and what your standard of living will be.

Pam 
My first foreign country was Germany, so it will always have a place in my heart. I grew to love Spain with its diversity and history. I traveled almost exclusively in Spain during the three years that I was there. Bulgaria was an amazing country to live in. It had changed from communism to a market economy just before I moved there, and I was able to witness many interesting changes (not all of them positive). I'm sure as you travel around the world, you will find the places that you love and will want to return to, as well as the places you will want to avoid in the future.

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Igor 
In Bulgaria, we didn't always have all the modern conveniences we may have been used to, but it didn't matter. I loved England with its neat and trim neighborhoods -- suddenly I could read and understand things around me. Turkey is also quite an amazing country --- a mixture of the Muslim tradition and a western-type 
economy. 

Q:
What are the best ways (or places) to get info on the good-paying opportunities that exist overseas? - Asked by Paul Thomas 

A:
Probably the best-paying jobs are with the international schools circuit. There are recruiting fairs which look specifically for certified teachers and these jobs are high paying and very secure. There are, however, many options for teaching abroad. It's always safer to be paid in U.S. dollars. We knew of a teacher who had to leave Korea because the currency devalued suddenly and he was left with bills he could no longer  pay. You can also consider Department of Defense Dependents Schools (DoDDS) that operate in 14 foreign countries, including most of the Western Europe. They pay well and the benefits are good -- they even ship your vehicle free of charge. 

There are many other advantages to working at an international school. For example,  your school takes care of your housing expenses as well as your airfare to and from the job, along with a substantial amount of personal belongings. You are also entitled to a $72,000 exclusion on your taxable income. And you travel and meet all kinds of people -- it's an adventure every day. 

For young teachers, it is advisable to gain some overseas experience working at a  local language academy or a small private school. Fullbright Teacher Exchange Program is also a good start for a recent college grad. 
We maintain a Web site about teaching overseas at http://joyjobs.com/tips/index.html
Please feel free to stop by if you need more info. 

Q:
Have you ever been to England, if so what's it like?  - Asked by Ethan 

A:
Pam: 
I have been to England several times. My experiences there were very positive. My first trip to England was with a rail pass, so I travelled by train for several weeks before my school term began in Germany. It's quite an expensive country. I found it very tidy and very much in order. London is one of the most amazing cities in the world. I travelled there several times from Spain and I found it extremely colourful, vibrant and exciting. I had some difficulty understanding the English spoken in Great Britain, especially in Scotland, but I remember laughing a lot because I couldn't make myself understood either. Write again if you have more specific questions about travel there and I'll be happy to answer. 
Igor: 
London has the best Indian food outside of India, if not better. It is incredible. 

Q:
Hi Pam and Igor, 
I have a student who is interested in teaching English as a second language but is unable to obtain education further than Grade 12 at this time (financial reasons). Is there any opportunity for someone without a teaching certificate? He has taught some people from Korea while they were here in Canada, so he does have some experience.  Asked by Jacquie Thom 

A:
Sure. He could teach at any language academy. There are thousands of them all over the world. At my school in Spain there were dozens of academies, and most of the teachers filling the positions didn't have certification. Actually, the more popular teachers were the younger ones who could share the American ways and customs. The academies cater to all sorts of locals from school kids to business professionals. Simply being a native speaker of English counts for a lot at a language academy. If he can narrow down a little bit where he wants to live, he can zero in on some academies in the area or city there and begin applying. 

Q:
I read your article that was published in CX. I myself am taking two foreign languages and hope that someday I will also be able to travel abroad. My plans for college are to major in foreign language (education) and international marketing. I had noticed that you had gone overseas to teach which interested me greatly. I was wondering if you might give me some hints as to how I could get started on such an endeavor. I speak German and Spanish. I'm eager to hear from you.Thanks again.  Asked by Brian Walk 

A:
Our initial reaction is to suggest that you also take some TOEFL classes or even some  basic education classes when you are in school (maybe cut down on electives and fill in with education classes) so you will be certified to teach English to non-native speakers of the language. This may open more doors for you for teaching overseas and, quite possibly, get you into an international school in Germany or Spain or South America. 

If you are certified to teach Spanish or German, you will have to rely on the schools overseas which offer those programs (my hunch is that French is offered more than the other languages). And usually a local person is hired (cheaper) to teach the host language to the students. Teaching at an international school would be in English, however your language skills would be necessary outside of school or for helping the administration deal with the host country and local staff. Our friend Erik Richardson is a language wizard. He mastered Bulgarian quickly and is presently in Indonesia. The school sent him to an intensive one-on-one language course this summer to improve his language ability and he is instrumental around the school on a day-to-day basis. 

Q:
Was it ever dangerous on your travels?  - Asked by Beth Robertson 

A:
Pam: 
I was only physically scared once or twice in all the time I was overseas. Once was in Portugal while walking down a very narrow fish alley in a coastal town. Sharp and enormous filleting knives were being used on all sides, there were mounds of fresh fish to be prepared for market and there was barely room to turn around. I became claustrophobic in a big way and knew that an enormous arm was going to come out and haul me off into one of the closed doors. 

The other time was when I attended a gypsy festival in the south of France. Heaven knows why we decided this would be fun. We were going to camp out on the beach and, luckily for us, we found a large hospice tent set up by a local church. I entered  that tent on Friday night and didn't come out until Sunday when we were leaving. It was SCARY! I saw enough just sitting in the tent watching the people coming in and out to know that I really didn't want to see more of what was on the other side. 

Igor: 
Most crimes in the places where we lived were against property, not people. We were robbed in Bulgaria while we were at school. Someone was probably scoping out our house, watching our schedule. We were robbed about an hour after school began. Our neighbour said there were three robbers and they split up and searched the house looking for nothing but jewellery and gold (which they found because we had everything in our top drawer!). They disappeared before the police arrived. Apparently they had a portable radio that was tuned to 
the police channel to warn them in advance. 

However, the violent type of crime is much lower abroad compared to the United States. In Japan, for example, gun-related violence is 0.5 per cent of the U.S. level --  that means it's practically non-existent. Personally, I feel quite safe almost everywhere because of the strict gun control laws in most foreign countries. Yes, they can steal your bags at the airport, but it is very unlikely that someone will confront you with a weapon. In Spain, people are out on the streets until 3 in the morning and nobody cares. 

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