July 2007
Before
I begin with some instructional help, I must give you the following advice:
You are in
a foreign country! You are a guest here! Their laws are not
stupid or odd…they are just different. Think of the difficulties
of moving here as just a game. Their game! Their rules.
If you want to play it will be much easier if you play by their rules and
not try to impress some governmental official or quasi-governmental person
with your outstanding knowledge about the way things should be, or the
way things are in the States.
Be kind, be
considerate, be patient, and people will be helpful. Some of the
things necessary to do are a pain in the butt but you have to do them.
Why challenge their way of doing things….it will NOT endear you to the
local people when you suggest that there is an easier way, a better way,
or a faster way, or the American way. It will only tend to make them
less helpful.
Imagine, if
the shoe were on the other foot - you are trying to enter the United States
as a resident alien…it is a huge pain. American ways are far more
difficult than are Panamanian ways. If you are a foreigner trying
to immigrate to the States, you can count on a 5-7 year wait unless you
are a foreigner opening a business. Then there is a huge amount of
paperwork and the fees are huge. Trust me, their ways are easier,
just play by their rules, and you’ll not have difficulty. Things
never go perfectly smoothly but if you keep the foregoing in mind and follow
the suggestions hereafter, you’ll get here with the minimum of problems.
Once in, and you have your pensionado
visa this is the easiest place in the world to get along. Trust me,
I’ve been everywhere in the world and I can assure you you’ll love it if
you understand what you are doing.
I believe it is essential you get
a pensionado visa. It will make you essentially a citizen with all
the rights any other citizen has except voting. It also gives you
discounts on everything from air-fares, food, dentist bills, drugs and
everything you can think of. Nearly as important is the fact that
you are entitled to be treated like an honored retired citizen. You
don’t have to keep your passport with you at all times….your pensionado
card will suffice for everything except opening your bank accounts.
It is worth the effort.
In order to get your pensionado visa
you need to do some things. You need a (I suggest a color copy..scan
it into your computer and print it out) copy of your passport. You
will need a copy of your police report; you accomplish this by going to
your local police department in your country of residence) and asking for
one. In our former home in the states they charged us $10 per person.
You will need a copy of your birth certificate and if married a copy of
your marriage certificate. Some one told me you now need a health
certificate. I suspect that is because of the pervasiveness of HIV/AIDS
throughout the world. You only need to see your physician and have
him give you a letter saying you are in good overall health and are HIV/AIDS
negative. I seem to recall that we got a local health certificate
from a local doctor here in Panama. It would be wise if you took
a look at International Living Panama Visa page..just google it and you’ll
get the info you need.
You need an attorney here in Panama
for this effort. I would strongly suggest you get one in Panama City
rather than here in Boquete because of the fact that there are many less
than scrupulous attorneys here (just like in the States) that will charge
you based on the fact that they can get essentially any amount they
want to charge you because you are a foreigner rather than what is a reasonable
and fair price. Competition is good. You should not pay more
than $700 for the first person and $500 for the second if they are done
at the same time. So, for a couple more than $1200 is not reasonable.
I will give you the name of an attorney
that is well connected and knows this procedure so well that she “can do
it with her eyes closed.” She speaks English and is very helpful.
Her name is Myra Lamboglia: email her at mayra1378@hotmail.com.
If you tell her that Casey Koehler from Boquete sent you she will be receptive.
She has had clients that don’t listen to her and don’t do as she says and
tell her how silly the requirements are. She doesn’t like that.
This is her country and her country’s rules and she knows the laws.
Do the things she says, how she says, and when she says, and you’ll have
no difficulty. You will have to pay her $600 down on her accepting the
job and the balance of the $1200 on completion of your visas (for two).
When you have collected the documents
I just described you will have to have them “apostilled.” That means
basically, notarized, BUT, by their consulate in Coral Gables, Florida.
Don’t send them to their Miami consulate. The Coral Gables branch
is very efficient and very fast and if you send them in a Fedex envelope
with a self addressed Fedex envelope enclosed along with $15/page you should
get your documents back in 3-4 days at most. Include a letter that
says “my attorney suggested I forward these documents to you for apostillation”,
would you please be kind enough to do so and return them to me in the enclosed
self addressed Fedex envelope as soon as possible? Thank you!” You
can get the address for the Coral Gables Panamanian cousulate by calling
information and asking whoever answers for the address and asking to whom
you should address your request. Remember, do not send to the Miami
branch! It will take a month or more if you do so, and may not get
done at all.
Once these babies are back in your
hands, you simply put them in a FedEx (notice I said FedEx, mail service
is notoriously unreliable) to Mayra Lamboglia….requesting her to begin
and enclosing a bank check for half the total amount required. Her
current address is Calle 50 #117 Planta Baja San Francisco, Panama
City, Republic of Panama.
It would be a good idea for you to
check with her via email that her address hasn’t changed. People
do change their offices. Ask her when she thinks she will be ready
for you to take the next step. Follow her directions. She knows
what she is doing. You will have to show up in person to get your
card. We had to bring the documents personally, make a trip to the
immigration office and do some other things while there. Then when
things were complete we had to return to get our final cards…this only
took 15 minutes.
Corporation or Foundation
Don’t bother with forming a corporation
unless you will be starting a business on arrival. My strong suggestion
is that you form a foundation to protect your assets. (They changed
the laws here about a year and a half ago. Corporate officers and
directors are now responsible for the
debts of the corporation should
the corporation go bankrupt!) Who needs that?
Foundations protect your assets from
prying eyes from anywhere, including the IRS, they protect your assets
in the event you should have a terrible accident and, for instance, run
over a child, from lawsuits. It is an indispensable tool for you
and Myra can get that done too. She charges $900 for the process
and it’ll take 60-90 days. Once again, she requires 50% down and
the balance on completion. I should let you know here that I do not
get a kick back from Myra for sending you to her. I know her, respect
her and her abilities and she was very helpful to us. No one was
here to help us find out any of this stuff and I just feel I should help
anyone that needs it. Since I am so routinely asked I decided to
save myself saying the same stuff over and over and reduce all this to
writing.
Back to the foundation. You
should open any bank cd’s (certificate of Deposit) and at least one savings
account in the name of the foundation. We have another bank account
in our names in which we keep about $5000. That is just for anything
that might be needed. When that account needs replenishing we just
transfer money from our foundation checking account to our personal checking
account. This way there is never much money to attack should anything
happen. Additionally, we did not put our car in the foundation.
Maybe we should have but we didn’t. We have only our land, cd’s and
one checking account that’s it. |