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From
a Reader in San Francisco
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Dear Robin,
If your desire
is to live in a free standing house in a safe country with low income disparity
between classes, then you are setting a pretty high bar which will eliminate
most countries. Most Latin American countries, including Argentina, have
wide income disparities.
Uruguay and
Chile probably score best on this measure but they are minor players in
the larger scheme of things. I think you might be describing countries
that suffer from what is called in economics the "Venice "problem, i.e.
aging populations, declining birthrates, stagnant economies, low income
disparity, and big social welfare nets. Venice has a declining population
even though it is still a beautiful place and suffers from all the characteristics
that I have mentioned. In fact, both Japan and Italy would easily meet
your criteria but just try making a living in either country. Same thing
for Sweden.
I disagree
with you a little about Brazilian women. Status and mobility for many Brazilian
women may be tied to being connected to the right man, even an expat, but
this is true in many countries. In fact, the ability for large numbers
of women to live independent lives both financially and socially is largely
limited to the US and perhaps some places in Europe, even though female
participation rates in the professions is higher in the US than almost
anywhere else. The women I knew in Brazil were not particularly interested
in expats, at least not the expats, you describe.
In the meantime,
try to read Caetano Veloso's bio... A great song writer but also
an original intellectual.
Regards,
Dave
Hi Robin,
I visited Bali
in 1976 and haven't been back since, though I would like to. Living in
two places means we don't get to make some of the other trips we would
like to make.
I chose to
live in Barcelona because my boyfriend loves it here so much. He's an American,
too, but had lived in Barcelona for a few years and when he was ready to
come back, invited me to join him. We came over the first time in January
2003, the wettest, coldest winter Barcelona experienced in ten years I'm
told. After being spoiled by San Diego's clime, I wasn't too happy about
the weather. I hate having to wear coats and gloves, taking them off on
the bus then back on when you go outside, then off again when you get where
you're going and so on. But the winters are really quite mild, probably
not all that much colder than the Bay Area. No snow except every decade
or so. No ice, but cold enough that I choose to come back to San Diego
for the winter months. I'm pretty much a weather wimp.
I'm not surprised
to hear you say Barcelona is one of your favorite Euro cities. Mine, too.
Much as I love Paris, I'd really rather live in Barcelona. I don't speak
enough Spanish to really be a part of the daily life here. I can get by,
with apologies to everyone I come in contact with for my very poor Spanish
and sometimes getting something on my plate that I'm certain I didn't order.
There's a large expat community of English speakers here, primarily Brits
and Irish. The first year I was here I ran a couple of writing workshops
and had about a dozen participants. Still see some of them from time to
time, but haven't taken on any more workshops. I'm really trying to focus
on my own writing.
Going back
and forth and living in both places works fine for me. My boyfriend would
just as soon be in Barcelona all the time with just brief visits back to
the US, but I need to come back to SoCal for longer times. I miss my family,
my friends and the work I do there. (Teaching and leading the workshops).
We keep an apartment in both places and try to rent them out while we're
on the opposite shore to help with the expenses. Lucky with the San Diego
place so far, not so much with Barcelona. But then we haven't worked as
hard at trying to find tenants for this flat.
Hope you can
find a way to make it work for you too. It's a great experience and so
good for us Americans to have the perspective of another way of life.
Let me know
if you're coming this way.
With best regards,
Judy
Dear Robin,
You ask me
why I chose Turkey. This is how I came to be here.
I lived in
Italy 20 years ago and after that met a Greek on the island of Mykonos
while on holiday and the next year moved to Athens to be with him.
He became my husband 1 year after that and although we only stayed in Athens
for 2 years we were married for 12. The Mediterranean countries have
always attracted me. The people, the history, food, sea and in general
my sense of well being when I am here.
I have traveled
a lot to this part of the world (S. Europe, N. Africa , and the Middle
East). I took my first trip to Turkey in 1983 and returned many times
after that. I loved it here from the start. I have a close
American friend that came to Istanbul 13 years ago when she fell in love
with a Turk. She opened a wonderful hotel here called Empress Zoe
and has done very well with it. I used to come regularly to visit
her and always said that one day I would come to live in Istanbul.
Last year I decided it was time to come back to Europe to live. I
was sick of my job as a dental hygienist, I was always travellng to either
Greece, Italy, or Turkey and just felt that I should make a change and
come over here. So, I sold my condo in SF and made a decent profit,
sold my car, quit my job and decided that what sounded fun to me was to
have a small coffee bar close to the Mediterranean Sea.
I originally
thought about Southern Turkey because I used to go often to Kas on the
Antalya Coast. I vetoed that idea last Sept. when I made a trip there
alone and tried to look at things from the perspective of a woman going
to open a business, rather than as the tourist I had always been while
there in the past. I decided it was too small, the season too short
and I decided that Istanbul would be better for me. I choose Turkey
in general simply because it didn't have the Euro as currency and I thought
my dollars would go further here. I also had the advantage of my
girlfriend here and her ex-husband who is also a friend. I came alone
though and have tried not to depend on them for getting me adjusted.
By the way,
it does snow in Istanbul in Jan-Mar. What a shock for me!!
I occasionally
wonder what would have happened if I had stayed in the Bay Area (California,
USA)
instead of
moving to Asia. But, I was reading an article on Salon recently by Heather
Havrilesky where she says, “I try as best I can to laugh along with
the bad joke that American culture has become. But when you really take
a close look and see how complacent we all are in the total annihilation
of any standards of quality or decency or taste, it's pretty impossible
not to imagine that we're at the start of a very rapid descent downward,
to the bottom of the global barrel -- you know, where we belong?”
I guess that
kind of sums up my take on America from my last visit which was a long,
long week and led me to want to kiss the ground of the airport in Taipei
when I landed there just because I was back in Asia.
Shellie, Partner
Owner at Kahvedan Restaurant/Bar in Istanbul, Turkey
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From
an American Woman Serving in the Military in Sicily
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Dear Ms. Sparks,
I have just
been reading your articles as part of my current "mini-escape" fantasy
tactics.
A woman needs something to make it through the day!
I can't believe
how similar my goals are to yours. I currently live in a wonderful
paradise (Sicily) working for the Navy, but I long for retirement - outside
of the U.S. I even purchased a home in New Zealand, but
recently sold
it when I decided I did not want to get residency by going to work there
as a psychotherapist. (A 75% pay cut is just not acceptable to me!)
The only other way I could get residency there is to invest a huge amount
of money, and I don't think I will have that much when I retire.
A former Hippie,
I've been a responsible worker-bee since 1988. I'm currently obsessing
on Brazil, especially since my son's fiancé lives there.
She's looking
at houses for me.
Even though
many people in the military have a different mind-set than my own, many
of them do retire outside of the U.S. Their lives moving around the
world during their careers make them worldly enough to know they can live
anywhere in the world if they want.
I've also travelled
to Japan, Nepal, Africa (including Egypt & Tunisia in N.Africa) all
over Europe, Russia, and I can't think of everywhere else.
Europe is too
expensive, and none of these other places appeal to me as future homes.
(Although I would travel there any time.)
The Med is
beautiful beautiful beautiful, but pretty much has the same mind-set you
described for Brazil. (Gender inequality).I think Greece might even be
worse.
Gender-based
roles, segregation of the sexes (although this works out pretty well since
the war between the sexes is more understood in these places), and the
women also have affairs here, but not nearly as much as the men!
(All of them
do.) However, working in this field, I've come to realize that about
80% of American men (and many, many of the women) also have affairs, so
I think it is more of a species thing. I just don't think monogamy
is meant to be. I'm so sick of machismo that I don't even try to
be friends with men, and haven't been on a date since age 38! (I'm
56 now.) I accomplished so much after I stopped chasing men that
I just could not imagine going back to that. Since it's too dangerous
to have flings, I just swore off. Oh well.
I have (very)
often thought about writing short stories about my experiences here.
They are many and oftentimes amusing. It's amazing how I've gotten
to the point that having 2 or 3 near-head-on collisions on the way to work
each day does not even increase my heart rate! Crime, especially
theft, is so rampant here it is ridiculous, but there is very little "violent"
crime, except for the Mafioso killing each other occasionally.
This is a very
conservative system, and I really don't fit in at all. The "real
me" would be wearing feather boas, leopard pattern sling-backed heels,
and rhinestones every day, and since I left the French Quarter in New Orleans
(where I lived for 13 years) that style just doesn't work. They are
also into organized religion and being "seen" at church, and I prefer "spirituality"
rather than religion. There are many, many "religious right" people
in the military; hardcore Bible thumpers, etc. Eek! Also, discrimination
against women is a true art form in the military. "On paper," it
is not tolerated; but what a joke!
My daughter
has really good things to say about Colonia, Uruguay, which is very close
to the charms of Buenos Aires, and I will do a Google on it today.
I never even thought about Uruguay. She says that Chile can also
compete with Brazil. Colonia sounds a lot like Cuzco, which I LOVED.
Let me know
if you plan to come to Sicily.
Happy Trails!
Barbara
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A Canadian
Writes About Getting Unstuck in the Western World
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Greetings from
Canada. It seems to me that you are an extraordinary woman living an extraordinary
life. Traveling all around to wonderful places, meeting new and wonderful
faces. The whole world is your backyard - you’re not bound by the strings
of a western life I'd love to be in your shoes and I'd trade you
any day only if you'd want to be in mine,(obviously not).
For it is my
dream to travel. To see the world in all its diversity. But I'm stuck here
in the west, playing a miniscule role in society. Earning enough money
to make it to the next paycheck. Leaving me with no travel money or time.
I would like
to know how it was possible for you to do all your traveling and if you
think there may be a way I could end my waste of a life cycle in which
I'm currently stuck?
Thanks
Happy Trails
Adam
Hello Adam,
I lived
an "ordinary" life for 25 years. My divorce after a long marriage motivated
me to go for it, to give up security for a life I loved. I'm still trying
to make that work. The key is to find income that is passive like writing
a book or eBook that continues to pay royalties, or like rental property
that you can rent out. (Best to buy out of the US or Canada or Europe as
you can buy far cheaper.) Even without money, you will find that it's not
that hard to leave the old life behind and pay as you go. Each expat haven
has expats in search of products and services not yet available which an
enterprising newcomer can provide.
Find a need
and fill it, and you are making a living. You will need to make only a
tiny fraction of what you need to live on in Canada, if you choose your
expat home wisely. You can teach English as a Second Language for instance.
Good luck!
Robin
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