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A Multi-National
on Life in Uruguay, Argentina and Turkey
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Dear Editor,
I am an Uruguayan
married to a Turk. We live in Kasadusi, Turkey but as soon as our house
is finished in Punta del Este, Uruguay, we will split our time between
both countries. I have lived in many parts of the world from New York to
Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Marta
Dear
Marta,
I am curious
about why you chose Punta del Este. Do you think it has topped out?
I was surprised at the high price of property when I was there earlier
this year. Also, Punta is not a “walkable” city and is highly seasonal,
which gave me pause about living there. I also sniffed out Montevideo,
Uruguay - the location, the architecture, the opportunity for growth -
were all there. But the food and the spirit of the people? Something missing.
Like joy. Color. Your take on Punta del Este and Montevideo? - Editor
Dear Robin,
In terms of
why I’m building in Punta del Este? Well, my house is not even going to
be in Punta del Este, but 20 minutes is close enough, and I have a completely
deserted beach. I would not advise buying a house in Montevideo because
I don´t like Montevideo, and it has to do with the people. There
seems to be a negative magnetic field under Montevideo (it´s been
a life-long joke/theory of mine, but many people say it seriously) and
the place is just a downer. The drabness, I call it "behind-the-iron-curtain-chic"
we are so Eastern European under Soviet rule... Although I can appreciate
that it is pretty in many places and many ways.
The thing about
Punta del Este is a) the sense that there´s something upbeat or positive
or energizing about it, and b) it really is all things to all people. Whatever
you want, artists, millionaires, fashion set, cozy apartment life, or a
large house on a huge piece of land, forest, a farm with ocean views...
Whatever it is, you can find it there. Decent services (Movie theaters!)
excellent supermarkets and beautiful nature, and a very easy way out, as
you can be in Montevideo airport with a 90 min. bus ride,or fly to Buenos
Aires with the shuttle from the Punta del Este airport, or if you want
the cheap alternative, a 4-5 hour bus/ferry ride...
There are no
young or youngish expats, but the people are still mostly foreigners, as
Uruguayans either can't afford Punta del Este or hate it or both. Most
are Argentines, followed by Brazilians and Paraguayans, Europeans and a
fast growing number of Americans. Mostly the expats are people who have
worked as executives for multinationals in Argentina, fallen in love with
Punta, and retired there, or spend a considerable amount of time there.
Also, expats (that is, non-Latin Americans) come mostly for the summer
season, and don't live there full time.A new kind of expat is the New Yorkers
(I have a couple of friends and several customers in that circle) who are
brought down to Punta by an Argentine friend living in NY, or after visiting
an Argentine friend/business contact in Buenos Aires who decides to impress
them by bringing them to Punta, they fall in love, purchase property, and
continue coming down on vacations and bringing their friends. They come
three or four times a year, and are usually buried in house guests. One
such friend, for example, is an interior designer in NY, who started coming
as a house guest about 5 years ago, bought property a year and a half ago,
and now he comes down every three months or so. Then in the height of the
season there's the jet set crowd, the Naomi Cipriani, Versace, Di Caprio,
Shakira etc. etc. who come down to their secluded farms near the ocean
(between La Barra and Jose Ignacio) and stay for the couple of weeks of
the see-and-be-seen season (Dec.26-Jan15).
I don't think
Punta del Este is topped out, because a) we're still light years away from
prices in say, Mexico and even Turkey, not to mention the U.S. or Europe,
and b) the place is only now beginning to be discovered by Europeans and
Americans, so prices could easily double or more in the near future, barring
of course, another Argentine crisis.
I also feel
that the best deal right now in Uruguay is buying land and building yourself.
Land is even cheaper in relative terms than houses or apartments. For example,
where I'm building my house, I just bought another 1400 square meters (next
to the two other lots I had, which brings the total to one acre). This
last lot, one block away from the ocean, with forest and sea views, 5 mins
away from the airport, 1hr away from Montevideo and 20 mins away from Punta,
cost me $17,500. Of course you can find lots for
$1,500 in
Brazil, but they will be in the middle of nowhere, and soon the Heart of
Darkness thing will set in, whereas here I am, door to door, one and a
half hours away from Aeroparque in Buenos Aires, which is more than most
Argentines can say.
Yes, the season
in Punta del Este is short, I would say December through end of March.
I really regret that this year I left at the beginning of March, my favorite
month in Punta del Este.
The one-two
Buenos Aires-Punta del Este combo sounds like a perfect formula for what
you are seeking.
Buenos Aires
is really a wonderful city. And a wonderful city to live in as a foreigner
as well. But you do need Punta if you live there, that´s why 80%
of the people in Punta del Este are Argentines :-) As for it being walkable,
you may stay in the Peninsula and do without a car, but you really will
not get a fraction of what Punta is without a car. There are so many places
to go which are so distant, basically you have 30 kilometers in one direction,
30 in the opposite, and the big triangle in the middle.... so if you are
based in Buenos Aires, you can always come on the ferry with your car,
or cross a bridge (if we are not at war with Argentina).
I would not
advise living in a country where the cultural differences with the local
population are too wide. I say this while I live in Turkey, which is a
case in point. A problem with being an eternal expat and living in a place
that is too "exotic" is the "easy copout." When I was living in Sao Paulo
I came to hate most of the expat journalists because they seemed to "float"
over Sao Paulo, reminiscing about their last country, bitching about Brazil,
and longing for the next utopian destination. I think that if you can moderately
identify with the country/culture you live in, the chances of developing
that jadedness are reduced, and your chances for meaningful integration
and a more "real" life increase. If I were not going back to Uruguay 4
months a year, and travelling another one or two months to Asia and NY,
for example, I would not be able to live in Turkey. Even though I am married
to a Turk, and I have been here 4 years already, I cannot feel committed
to this country... so I try hard to avoid becoming the bitter expat by
leaving often, which keeps me distracted from the things that bother me.
Another issue for example are families and children in mixed couples...
I know of a 5 year-old boy, with English mom and Turkish father, but raised
in Turkey since he was a baby, who rebelled at school and refused to sing
the pledge of allegiance to Ataturk or the Republic or whatever, screaming
I AM ENGLISH!!! If this happened with a Canadian-Argentine family, it would
be laughable.
So the beach,
the lovely weather and the "friendly atmosphere" are not quite the whole
picture, and usually where the big cultural differences are muffled (in
very large cities) you don't have the beach. You can’t have it all in one
location.
Happy travels,
Marta
Dear Editor:
I thought
for sure you would read my E-mail and be like.................UH OH,
another Psycho
!!!! Actually, I infer from your last message that you too are still single.
Funny huh. The more you have to offer and the higher you set your standards,
you funnel available candidates down into a very small sample.
I don't think
you fit the stereotypical spoiled American girl. In fact, I'm quite sure
if I would put my guard down for a minute, I'd find that there are a lot
of sweet girls living very nearby. BUT, it is such a big, wonderful world...I
figure I'll wait and, if the girl I finally decide to spend the rest of
my life with lives on Mars, the I'll just have to build a spaceship.
I have to agree
with you in the sense that I am not looking for "the little woman type".
I am VERY independent and I think that would drive me crazy. I don't need
a maid, nor a mom. Very interesting, is it possible to find someone that
does have a very nice life of their own that can still share your life
and ADORE you ???? Is there a happy medium in between the poor, need a
green card latin girl and the independent, bling-bling, man-hater ???
About language
incompatibility with foreign women - it's a beautiful phenomenon. We sit
at a little outdoor "chopperia", I go on and on about how great I am, and
she sits there, in her skimpy, sexy, little outfit and just nods her head....Paradise
!!!!!!!! No whining, no condescending comments, no
"men are so
stupid" attitude.
Editor:
Ha, ha.
Robin seriously,
I hate the ever growing prevailing attitude that seems to have left the
American man castrated, and to our discredit, we accept it !!!! How many
shows on TV (especially that one with that LOSER Doug the UPS man guy or
whatever he is) make the man of the house look like a total boob........that
now has become Chic !!!!!!!! Men are spineless wimps that cringe when the
wife comes through the door !!! The same with TV commercials...how many
ads make the man look a total little boy that is afraid to get yelled at
by his mommy (wife).
Editor: I hadn´t
noticed, but then traveling does not lend itself to TV watching. It does
seem to me that there has been a general dumbing down of men in America.
Foreign men just seem so much more sophisticated.
Dear Editor,
Don't get
me wrong, I think women are the greatest, most fascinating thing God created..........can
I please just keep my self respect as I attempt to love one ????
Just two nights
ago, I was sitting at my favorite "establishment" and it was late
in the night when a couple came in and sat within earshot of me. After
about twenty minutes, I hear the woman, granted about all 300 pounds of
here, go off on the guy, telling him that after 14 years she wants him
out,
he's a thorn
in her side, he's lazy, etc., etc. All I could think to myself was....you
poor bastard, another castrated American man. Get some balls and walk out
of here.....for GOOD. He didn't, all he could keep saying was how much
her happiness meant to him !!!! YOU FOOL !!!
Editor:
Sad, sad.
As far as the
sex, well, I'm not quite sure. I am still a virgin. OK,OK, to me, foreign
girls (be it Europe, Asia, or Latin America) seem to love sex because they
are attracted to you and YES, being that they are HUMAN beings, they ENJOY
sex as much as men do (if not more). So......they make no bones about it......"I
am attracted to you, you to me.....what are we waiting for".
Editor:
American men, and I believe most American women would agree with me, have
a game plan...If his date sleeps with him on the first date, he figures
she’s an easy lay and doesn’t call her again. It’s no wonder American women
hold out, play games. They’ve learned if they have sex when they really
want to, and if they show how much they love sex, that the challenge is
gone for the man, and he will move on to other (prey?).
On the other
hand, most American girls I have "been with" act like it's some sort of
HONOR they are bestowing upon me to let me engage in enjoyment with them
(if the do in fact allow themselves to enjoy it). I earned enough "dinner
and a movie" miles to get in their pants. What a joke, what a game.........they
want it just as much but choose to put some kind of guilt trip out there.
Editor: Like
I said...Women are playing a game that men created and perpetuate. Perhaps
American men accept a foreign woman sleeping with him on the first date,
because he is after all in a foreign country right? And all taboos and
customs go out the window. And time is short.
Jeff: Gee,
once again girl, you have me all over the board with my thoughts !!! You
have a knack for doing that !!! I think, besides falling in love (ok......there's
THAT again)...........there is nothing more exciting in the world than
traveling, meeting new people and experiencing new cultures. How fascinating
!!!! If there's
any way I can contribute to your articles, or do any "leg" or fact finding
work while I'm traveling, it would not only be my pleasure, it would be
a blast !!!)
Editor:
Well..., I could definitely use a sherpa, I mean schleper. (-; Thanks for
sharing your point of view.
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These
feet were made for walkin’...
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Dear Robin,
What size
are your feet?
Steve
Dear Steve,
My feet are
size 8 1/2. Why?
Robin
Hey Robin,
Thanks for
your response. Are you coming back to Brazil and do you have more articles?
Oh and BTW,, your feet are the perfect size. Any photos of you and
the soles of your feet? Hope all is well.
-Steve
Hello Steve,
I will not
be back in Brazil until 2007. No, no photos of the soles of my feet. Are
you a shoemaker or do you have some kind of fetish.
Hey Robin,
I am not a
shoemaker.
Steve
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